Fury Warrior Guide
Edited by Headscutter on 2016-07-28 22:27:03
Hello everyone, let me introduce myself, I'm Sami Awad, I played as a warrior for about 4 years and I'm here to share my experience with you, many of you already know me and now I'm updating this guide, I've tested alot of stuff here and it worked awesome, so lets start.
Abbreviations: (I don't know if I wrote it correctly xD)
DB = Deathbringer
DBM = DeadlyBossMods
WW = Whirlwind
ArP = Armor Penetration
AP = Attack Power
HS = Heroic Strike
1: We have 2 main important stats beside the Armor Penetration, they are Hit and Expertise, you can't do a good DPS without getting your caps on Hit and Expertise, so the soft Hit cap is 5% + 3% from Precision talent on fury talent tree or you can simply go to 10% or more Hit without Precision , and the Expertise cap is 26/26, getting these caps will allow you to make a good DPS cuz you won't miss neither dodge, and as you all know, always attack the boss from behind to avoid Parry, you might miss some attacks at some occasions so if you wanna get more hit it's ok, but its preferably to be from the gear, don't gem Hit.
2: Critical: what I'm gonna say is everything from what I experienced, and all my thoughts, which means that you are not forced to follow what I'm saying, anyways, the min Critical cap for raiding is 55% unbuffed, this is a must, but I had 60,21%, so I can crit all the times, and of course you can't get to this cap without wearing Agility gear, you must have around 750 - 800 Agility unbuffed.
3: Armor Penetration: When you are on a good guild that do Heroics you can farm your gear faster than pugging raids, so when you are like 6.5k or more, you will have around 90% ArP which is already enough, the soft cap is 90% but if you wanna go for the hard cap then you will have to change your Strength gems to the ArP ones which I would say better don't do it.
4: Strength: It's one of the most important stats, the good things that we can get from it is a great increase on Deep Wounds and on our other skills also, so always try to gem as much Strength as you can.
5: Haste: Many other classes including warriors are against going with haste, well, I would say the opposite, having Haste will let you attack faster, you will have more attacks and use more Heroic Strikes, the faster that you attack, the more rage that you generate, I'm not saying to gem Haste nor use full Haste items, but 2-3 Haste gear will be really good, the 1st one that I would suggest is Aldriana's Gloves of Secrecy and the 2nd one is Sindragosa's Cruel Claw , now if you wanna use a 3rd one it's all up to you, you can get either Gunship 25 heroic agility cloak that gives haste + crit or Halion's 25 heroic leather bracers which gives haste + crit.
After playing here for a while I discovered that Warriors are owning even here, so if you are willing to be the top on the recount you must have the propper rotation, gear and must get all your caps.
I'll start with the Talents first:
Arms Tree: 3/3 Improved Heroic Strike is a must for PVE.
go for 2/2 Improved Rend and I'll tell you why later on.
3/3 Tactical Mastery is a must cuz you are going to switch stances while fighting sometimes.
then you can add 2 points at Deflection or at Iron Will .
2/2 Impale .
3/3 Deep Wounds .
3/3 Two-Handed Weapon Specialization .
Fury Tree: 5/5 Cruelty .
3/3 Armored to the Teeth
now you can go for 5/5 Unbridled Wrath but in my opinion it doesn't really worth that much spending 5 talent points to get only 1 rage, the chance is 80% - 90% I guess, I'm not sure but I don't get this talent.
2/2 Booming Voice take it to fulfill the second row so you can go for the third row.
3/3 Improved Cleave I recently discovered that this is useless, the only reason that I had it was cuz of DB boss, and since the mobs are one-shotting us then I just took it off.
5/5 Commanding Presence is really good when you don't have a paladin to Might so you can have additional AP and boost your DPS.
5/5 Dual Wield Specialization is a must.
1/1 Death Wish .
3/3 Precision if you are at 5% - 8% Hit Rating, but if you r at 10% Hit Rating then you shouldn't get this talent.
5/5 Flurry .
now Improved Berserker Rage is one of the most useless talents in my opinion, cuz Berserker Rage have a GCD (Global Cooldown) so it's not really worth to take it, the only good thing on it is that you can start with full rage before the fight, but anything beside this is terrible, if for example you are missing 3 rages to cast your Whirlwind , if you are going to waste a 1.5 GCD to get rage (in the meantime you will be already auto attacking the boss so you will get rages and will be a lose of DPS) and with a High End PVE gear you will generate rage as hell so you dont really need to waste 2 points on a GCD skill.
2/2 Improved Whirlwind .
1/1 Bloodthirst .
3/3 Intensify Rage .
5/5 Improved Berserker Stance .
3/3 Bloodsurge .
1/1 Rampage .
5/5 Unending Fury .
1/1 Titan's Grip .
If you wanna go for 5/5 Enrage then you will have to drop Precision so only do it if you have 10% Hit or more.
18/53/0 the reason why I got Piercing Howl is to slow the adds on DB, Supressors on VDW and Vile Spirits on LK, I didn't take Improved Cleave cuz I simply don't use Cleave, Heroic Strike does more damage, I got Heroic Fury cuz it's awesome on the most of the encounters, you might really need it, I got Enrage cuz it's a DPS increase.
Alright, now the glyphs that you must use:
Majors: Glyph of Heroic Strike *you will generate 10 rages whenever you do a Critical with Heroic Strike*
Glyph of Whirlwind *it will reduce the CD of your Whirlwind skill by 2 seconds*
now you have 3 choices, Glyph of Rending which will increase your Rend timer on the target by 6 seconds.
Glyph of Cleaving is totally useless since I don't useCleave .
and Glyph of Execution which whenever you use your Execute ability it will deal additional damage as you had 10 additional rages.
Glyph of Execution is useless for 2 reasons, 1st: cuz you only use Execute at the last 20% of the boss and the 2nd: cuz it will deal 380 additional damage (I guess) so it will be less than Slam , and as you warriors know, Execute is the last ability on our rotation.
So just take Glyph of Rending in my opinion
Minors: Glyph of Command .
Glyph of Battle .
and now you can choose between Glyph of Bloodrage or Glyph of Victory Rush .
For PVE you need 2 main macros, the Rend one and the Slam one (to stop casting Slam ).
Now notice that it's written stop casting, so this macro is basicly, if you have Bloodsurge proc then you will use the instant Slam, if not then it will stop the Slam cast.
Now on this macro, you only have to click it 3 times if you are slow, but it's better if you click it fast so you can go back to your rotation, so this macro will basicly get you to Battle Stance when you click it once, then click it again to cast Rend then click again to go back to Berserker Stance , now the reset=6 is cuz sometimes I had some problems with lags and manually changed to Berserker Stance so then the macro would fuck up, the 2nd one is better, if you are in Berserker Stance then it will take you to Battle Stance, if you are in Battle Stance or Defensive Stance then it will cast Rend and go back to Berserker Stance.
Now there are two useful macros
This will simply cast Whirlwind , Bloodthirst , Bloodthirst and then will reset the macro, which means we will cast Whirlwind , Bloodthirst , Bloodthirst again, Whirlwind has 8 seconds CD and Bloodthirst has 4 seconds CD, which means, you can use x2 Bloodthirst untill the next Whirlwind will be ready.
Why do we need this one? it's because when you use Whirlwind , you will only do the aoe but you won't start attacking, so this one will start attack and use Whirlwind
An additional macro:
#showtooltip Shattering Throw
This one will get you to Battle Stance, cast Shattering Throw and announce on who you are casting it.
Let's talk about the professions:
Inscription : Awesome prof cuz of the shoulder enchant.
Alchemy : Good prof cuz u have additional time and effect with your stuff (Elixirs and Flasks).
Tailoring : It's one of the BiS profs for warriors cuz of the 400 AP enchant on the Cloak.
Blacksmithing : It's good cuz you can have 2 additional gems but I would prefer Tailoring.
Jewelcrafting : It's the main prof for warriors and almost everyone cuz of the gems that you can make EX: Bold Dragon's Eye and Fractured Dragon's Eye .
Leatherworking : Good cuz of the bracers enchant.
Engineering : Awesome cuz of the Hyperspeed Accelerators enchant for gloves which will increase your Haste Rating by 340 I guess, it's really good so you attack faster with Heroic Strike, and It's also good for some bosses like Valithria Dreamwalker when the mages throw you up so you can Parachute it and for the Nitro Boosts that might help you in alot of situations.
Skinning : Not a really good prof even with it additional Critical.
Mining : Toughness is really good if you are willing to be a Tank or for PvP.
Enchanting : The double rings enchant.
Herbalism : Good for PVP cuz of the Lifeblood but not good for PVE.
So in my opinion, go for Jewelcrafting andBlacksmithing .
Now what you must have when you join the raids:
1: Always carry Flask of Endless Rage with you .
2: Scroll of Strength .
3:Dragonfin Filet , Fish Feast will give you 80 AP, so as we have additional Strength from Improved Berserker Stance you better eat your own food.
4: Indestructible Potion .
5: Potion of Speed .
6: Heroic Potion or Mighty Rage Potion which will instantly give you 45 - 75 Rages or Insane Strength Potion .
Here is the rotation that I use:
Start with an attack to generate rage, use Whirlwind, Bloodthirst, Death Wish, click once on the Rend macro (as I'm orc I use Blood Fury after the 1st click on the macro) and then I click 1 more time, but if you aren't an orc then just spam the Rend macro, you will get back to Battle Stance and the remaining CD of your Bloodthirst will around 2 seconds, use Bloodrage and Recklessness, use Bloodthirst and then Heroic Strike, you will have 1 stack of Recklessness left so use Whirlwind and you will get 2 crits, 1 from your main hand and 1 from your off hand, only use Heroic Throw when you aren't close to the boss cuz it will reset your auto attack timer so you will have more problems generating rages, use Rend whenever you can, it's a 3-6% dps increase depending on how you use it and if you know how to manage it, if you have a laggy internet or a bad pc then don't use Rend at all.
The priorities should go like this Whirlwind > Bloodthirst > Slam > Execute > Rend, so basically, when you reach 20% of the boss's HP just stop using Rend.
Lemme ask you a question, how many potions can you guys use on a boss? I can use 3 on Deathbringer Saurfang, here is the trick, the encounter takes 1 minute and 10 seconds to start, keep your eye on your DBM addon, when you see that there is 1 min and 2 secs use Indestructible Potion , this potion will stay 2 mins on you, it has 1 min CD, so when he says "Patethic old orc" (horde) or "Dwarves" (alliance) just use Potion of Speed or any of the rage potions, basically, you used 2 potions out of combat, which means, this will let you use the 3rd potion in 1 min.
Now the BiS gears (the gears that I would use)
MH (Main Hand): Shadowmourne or Glorenzelg, High-Blade of the Silver Hand
OH (Off Hand): Cryptmaker only if you haveGlorenzelg, High-Blade of the Silver Hand on your MH, but if you have Shadowmourne then use Glorenzelg, High-Blade of the Silver Hand on the OH, ofcourse this all depends on your Expertise and Hit, you need to manage them.
Helm: Sanctified Ymirjar Lord's Helmet .
Neck: Penumbra Pendant or Lana'thel's Chain of Flagellation Depending on your expertise, so don't go above 26/26 or also Sindragosa's Cruel Claw .
Shoulders: Sanctified Ymirjar Lord's Shoulderplates
Cloak: There is a Cloak from ToGC (Trial of the Grand Crusader) Tribute run but I couldn't find the link so I'll post this one Recovered Scarlet Onslaught Cape
Chest: Sanctified Ymirjar Lord's Battleplate
Bracers: Toskk's Maximized Wristguards or Bracers of the Heir
Gloves: Sanctified Ymirjar Lord's Gauntlets or Aldriana's Gloves of Secrecy you are going to use 4/5 Sanctified, so depending on your needs, Helm, Shoulders and Chest are essential, you will use either Gloves or Pants.
Waist: Coldwraith Links or Astrylian's Sutured Cinch , or you can also use Flesh-Shaper's Gurney Strap if you are lacking Hit.
Pants: Sanctified Ymirjar Lord's Legplates if you have Aldriana's Gloves of Secrecy , but if you have Sanctified Ymirjar Lord's Gauntlets then use Leggings of Northern Lights .
Boots: use Blood-Soaked Saronite Stompers if you have Astrylian's Sutured Cinch or Frostbitten Fur Boots if you have Coldwraith Links or you can also use Bone Drake's Enameled Boots which in my opinion is one of the best boots.
First Ring: Might of Blight or Frostbrood Sapphire Ring .
Second Ring: Ashen Band of Endless Vengeance
First Trinket: Sharpened Twilight Scale
Second Trinket Deathbringer's Will
you can also use Death's Choice horde side or Death's Verdict alliance side if you can't get any of the trinkets above.
Ranged Weapon: Fal'inrush, Defender of Quel'thalas
As I said, this is the gear that I would prefer to use, my friend Intrepidus told me about a list of all the good and BIS items for a warrior, since we are starting on a new server then we can't get BIS from the start, so here is the Landsoul's List
I hope you found this guide useful for you, any grammar errors or anything that I wrote wrong, feel free to post on the comments below.
If you have any questions or any suggestions about a better rotation or tricks, feel free to post on the comments below or whisp me on Headscutter here or on molten-wow (lordaeron realm), and here is my molten armory http://armory.molten-wow.com/character-profile/Headscutter/Lordaeron/
See ya guys in the game, Cheers.
PS: I don't own this account anymore.
7 years ago
Rate is Disabled.
Well, I try to contribute as much as I can, I would really like to contribute with money to the server but first: I don't have money and second: I don't like to have a premium account.
Anyways, the server is doing great, you guys are doing an awesome job.
7 years ago
Edited by Headscutter on 2013-07-24 19:59:56
7 years ago
Edited by Headscutter on 2014-02-17 16:02:23
Ofc not, the beasts here take 75% reduced AoE dmg, this picture is from molten, and also, u can't pull this kind of dps here cuz the recount/skada is totally different and also some buffs that don't stack such as Gbok with Gbos, u can have them both on molten, but not here :D
7 years ago
Hey, u might find something good for u here http://spinksville.wordpress.com/2009/04/14/fury-for-beginners/
7 years ago
Edited by Magmorian on 2014-03-16 00:16:24
Here is a good opener macro for charge and rend
/castsequence reset=6 Battle Stance, Charge, Rend, Berserker Stance
With Charge and melee hits you will (should) have rage to WW or BT when u enter BS
if not could do
/castsequence reset=1 Bloodthirst, Bloodrage
how i use BR anyway
7 years ago
The thing about Charge might be good for dungeons but not for raids, u can't Charge in combat and if the tank or any1 else pulls the boss then the entire raid automatically gets in combat, if u start with charge before the tank pulls the boss then u will probably die.
7 years ago
Edited by Tenebrisclav on 2014-04-17 10:21:16
came up with a BIS list for this tier if somebody disagree feel free to come with inputs
7 years ago
Edited by Magmorian on 2014-06-02 13:17:37
"Why are people even bumping this thread when arms warriors are better than fury warriors in this content, there's time before this becomes relevant."
lol what, i dont see any arms warriors beating Fury. in PvP maybe lol sure.
7 years ago
I've no idea if Arms is good for any content before ICC, I've tried Arms in 3.3.5a and it worked good, it can compete with Fury if you have the propper gear, also, this guide was made for Kirin Tor (3.3.5a ICC content) and not for Algalon (pre ICC).
6 years ago